Redesigns
07.20.10
posted by Robert Newman
Just Add Water

Publication design maestro
Roger Black announced his latest venture today,
Ready-Media, a collection of pre-existing templates for print and web publications. Ready-Media is a joint venture along with
David and
Sam Berlow of
Font Bureau, publication designer
Robb Rice, and newspaper designer
Eduardo Danilo. The service offers a smorgasbord of already-designed magazines in a variety of formats, city/regional, trade, travel, etc., as well as newspaper and web designs. Clients can choose a variety of fonts online and even see how they'll look in the layouts. The new venture's website states "never before has world-class media design been so available, so accessible, so affordable." Pictured above are two of the formatted templates. Left is the "Trumbull," a city/regional magazine format, and right is "Vernier," for trade and B2B mags.

More "world class" magazine formats, which Ready-Media designer Robb Rice says, will leave magazine designers "freed to concentrate on visual content." Left, "Ready Traveler," a travel magazine format. Center, "Lake Shore," another city/regional format. Right, "OCP," for trade and B2B magazines.
Unbelievable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dqm3WNB4b4
This is very troubling. What a huge setback for designers and magazine makers.
You've got to be kidding.
Paint by numbers for magazine design?
Thanks for the template, Rem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM9N30V4wnQ
When I met Roger Black two years ago, he asked me what I thought the future of publications would be. I had no idea he was thinking in this direction.
Thanks Ready-Media, you just set us all back about 10 years. How many of us have fought hard throughout our careers to have beautiful design work shine in mainstream commercial magazines? Or try to explain to prospective clients during a tough pitch why the typography should be a certain way, finessed just so to give a magazine that perfect typographic personality that will make it stand out from all the others? Not anymore. This cookie-cutter approach is absolute anti-design and will kill any exciting magazine design innovation left out there (which is already fast becoming extinct). What a joke, and absolutely disappointing, especially coming from a "publication design maestro".
I remember when Quark was first introduced (yikes!!!). For several years many corporate communications and marketing managers were firing design firms and having their executive assistants and interns buy the software to produce newsletters and publications at a fraction of the cost. After a while design firms were being called back to fix up the publications that were a dismal mess. This happened when the brilliant managers were getting grief from their bosses, because the publications had become less than mediocre.
There probably will be several brilliant magazine publishers who will jump at the opportunity to save some dough. They will hire some poorly compensated junior person and use this pop-it-in-the-oven smorgasbord approach to put together their magazines. They will save money for a while and will congratulate themselves on their innovative budget management and use of the newest available software. When they start noticing that the other guy's magazines look just like theirs and that their design does not really speak to their readers in their own voice, they will start calling in art directors and designers to fix the problem. Maybe even to redesign the magazine. What a concept!
I'd like the #23 General Tso with the #8 Egg Fried Rice for delivery please...
Get ready, SPD! Pub 45 call for entries will be flooded with a thousand designs that, somehow, all look the same.
Wow. Blasphemous much?
really surprising to see who this is coming from.
its interesting to see someone start such a heavily print dependent business as digital explodes. this especially seems dicey for custom publishing as i can see agencies going this route instead of hiring talented teams for custom work.
@rem ... that video is the best thing i've seen all week
mike, I can picture ready-media jamming in their office to divine sounds while making those templates!
Call me an optimist, but I think this is good news for all terrific magazine designers everywhere. This is rock bottom. Rock bottom means there is nowhere to go but up. It happened in the 80s when magazine consultancies, Roger Black's among them, produced cookie-cutter formats irrespective of content. It made the carefully art directed, editorially specific designs shine and spawned a decade of terrific in-house art direction.
And here we are again. Digital media scared editors, weakened designers' power, and now this. Well everyone, hang in there. No one, not the cheapest publisher or editor wants to feel like they bought some cheesy bargain basement generic rip-off. And they will feel that way instantaneously. They will embarrass themselves in front of their peers.
This always shakes out, no matter where it comes from. Trust me. I've watched this cycle for forty years.
This seems in sharp contrast to the Roger Black who spoke at last week's ICON6 Illustration Conference about the future of publishing:
http://escapefromillustrationisland.com/2010/07/19/icon6-video-the-future-of-publishing-part-1/
I'm open-minded but skeptical like many of you.
I can see this approach m - a - y - b - e satisfying some niche of the low end trade / business publication corner of publishing world who run tighter than the bark on a tree. Let's be honest, you my friend don't want those jobs anyway. I have to think, or at least I hope that Roger and company truly believe that they are offering this service with the intentions that cash strapped (or just plain ol' cheap) organizations can focus on strong imagery.
Dubious me thinks.
Templates are only as good as the teams shepherding them along.
Without a seasoned, talented art crew in place your publication will fail.
It will lack voice, have no clear point of view and fail.
Call me an optimist
You know, given your "A" responses in the Pr*tty Sh*tty interview, this clause alone made me snicker.
As always, such great points, right effing on. (Oh, and if any of y'all haven't read this, it's a quick read and well worth it. Look for the big-pink-all-caps about half way through.)
If this is Rock Bottom, it's not so bad. Interesting, though, that Rock Bottom has come just as the future of this entire media platform seems to be teetering on the precipice of cheapened irrelevance (see story above) and a whole new frontier of deepened story telling (see here or here or here). Toys aside, in the context of experiencing all the brilliant ideas overflowing in the pieces that were at the Gala this year, it's comforting to see the appreciation for design is clearly still there in many media and journalism organizations.
So here's to Rock Bottom. I'm bringing my shovel!
I agree whole-heartedly with Paula. While it seems scary, it is rock bottom. It gives us the opportunity to push back with more creative and personalized responses to editorial challenges. By giving our magazines "perfect typographic personalities", as Dirk put it, we'll always shine past these certainly DIN-heavy templates!
Guys
Time to wake up, as you say over the pond, and smell the coffee.
Roger Black is not an idiot. He no doubt wants to keep up the lifestyle that he has become very accustomed to. That means making dollars.... thousands of them. I don't know if any of you have noticed recently, but there has been a reluctance to invest in publishing since the arse fell out of the advertising market. In fact, cutting costs, I would hazard a guess, has been at the top of every publishers agenda for a while, and what better way of doing that, by dispensing with the services of those 'inky finger-ed' badly dressed (not you Scott) bolshy designers who make up a big part of the production costs with their big ideas for photo-shoots and expensive bespoke fonts. Just ship in a bunch of mac monkeys show them a locked down template and laugh all the way to a large corrupt bank in Wall Street! The fact is, and I know we will all try and argue otherwise to our editors, magazine design ain't rocket science, and newspaper design has always been the 'best job in the time available'.
Who will notice the difference with these off-the-shelf templates? Only we will. The great unwashed out there, certainly won't, they are being weaned off good design by increasing numbers of free newspapers and magazines, the internet, (hardly a hotbed of great visual editorial design) and the fact that the great majority of them just don't give a fuck about design. Nope, if you believe creativity is an important aspect a job, then maybe editorial design ain't the business to be in anymore. As far as i can see Mr Black's templates are cleaner and better than most small budget newspapers and magazines that I see. So what's the answer... who knows, but good luck to him. It's been coming for sometime and if we're going to be fucked it might as well be by one of our own. Reading your comments, it would appear, we as 'proper designers' are all still 'fiddling away' but, unfortunately Rome burnt down a couple of years back...
That's pretty worrisome. I sure hope Paula's right about this phenomenon.
Did anyone call them up to see what the prices are like?
@Thomas James. The new venture and the speech you posted seem to be two halves of the same coin. After all, the provision of a "prefab" information architecture does not begin to solve the narrative/energy challenge at the heart of a living publication. The proposition of the new venture, after all, challenges one to add "content", not mere water.
To my view any shrillness or pessimism in response to this attempt by Black & Co to reinvigorate their offer through a re-packaging that aims to simplify the publisher/investor experience seems at least premature and possibly misplaced. If it works, this approach would seem to me likely to re-energise a number of billable services, like creative direction, photography and art.
What does intrigue me, however, is the promised online-offline integration. I wager the new venture will face some devilish problems making good on that one. But good luck to them for having a go.
Roger: I thought we were supposed to give the client a unique and appropriate look AND "focus on visual content." Now, with all that free time, I can commission a photo shoot or two and play Facebook Scrabble the rest of the day. What's the word score for UNEMPLOYED?
Gag.
Despite the fact that for years we could see a Roger Black design-factory coming like balls on a tall dog, we all have our panties in a twist seeing his dark vision actualized. RB the new Godzilla of publishing! But seriously... probably not near as much a threat as we fear. Looking at the Ready-Media site, I actually nodded off and hit my keyboard somewhere between the Gilman and Lochmoor page layouts. All of em, every one of them, an Airplane mag ready to rock the cabin with it's um, attention to the almighty grid? It feels like it's more a of a way to wring as much coin as possible from his greatest hits collection and I just can't imagine a smart, progressive emerging publication going anywhere near a canned solution if it ever hopes to be read past the First Class cabin.
@ Luca - Thanks for your comment. Interesting things to think about indeed. One thing that stands out to me is the dividing line between the format and the content. In my opinion, a publication is most creative when the format IS the content just as much as the imagery and ideas it holds. Not every publication will see it this way, of course, which I suppose will define their aesthetic approach.
The thing that made me see a contrast in viewpoints between the venture and his speech at ICON was that at the conference he blamed Art Directors for taking the art out of their publications (paraphrasing), while at first look Ready-Media seems to encourage a streamlined approach as opposed to creating something unique. Any thoughts?
I agree with Paula as well.
As quoted by best-selling author; Neil Gaiman:
"The world always seems brighter when you've just made something
that wasn't there before.
My initial feeling was: who cares? This stuff will keep the basement end of the market perfectly happy, in much the same way as a lot of SMEs don't need Pentagram to design their business cards. Publishers think they're getting a bargain by setting an intern on these templates, end up spending a lot more than they'd intended on "support", and a significant portion will eventually end up looking for a professional designer who can do the job properly.
Then I got to thinking: these small, approaching-zero-budget publications are where many of us cut our teeth. If Ready Media is successful, that pool of entry points for young editorial designers will shrink precipitously - bad news for all of us, unless you're a fan of ladder-hoarding.
You know, Shem, that's pretty bleak. Less for my job than for the future of media and journalism (nee, story telling), I hope you're totally wrong. And as far as that goes, I think anyone here who's ever presided over a redesign knows that you're at least wrong about how much people notice in the media they consume, because there's always a ton of reader mail loving or loathing (or both!) of the work.
But what you wrote crystalized a train of thought I had last night into a full on flashback: A conversation I had a few years ago with [A Very Important Somebody] (names changed to protect the innocent) at [A Big Publisher] I worked for. We were working a late close (they were always well into the wee smalls), and we were bantering back and forth. Having come from a smattering of big and small, corporate and national publishers, the swing of resources was often an interesting reflection as we got stupid in the middle of the night. Like as in, "wow, it's so hot to have InDesign and K4, those [Tiny Fools] I worked for down the block in the [Crappy Orifice] Building only had Quark and OS 9 and it's 2004!! Mwahhahahaha Look at us now with our fancy InDesign and fast macs!"
Anyway, [VIS] was a Publishing Technologist, managed a few big design and prepress installations, and said, "You know, the funny thing about all these resources we have is that they make all of you irrelevant. I could press a couple of buttons on tomorrow, suck the K4 templates into Made4Print, and the editors could just stick their copy into formatted layouts at the click of a couple of buttons. You and everyone on [Super-Duper Creative Director]'s staff could be out of here in a week. But [Big Publishing CEO] doesn't think that's the best way to run the business, and I work for [BPC], so we have fancy software and big fast macs and instead of firing all of you, [BPC] augmented you." I'm paraphrasing but only a little (having consulted with a friend who was there that night, this account doesn't just reflect my personal take-away, but their recollection as well). At the time, [VIS] was probably just being cheeky, but it the whole thing stuck in my craw, because having worked the back-end for long enough, I knew he was completely right. The first time I ever went to a cross media publishing course in the early aughts, I witnessed precisely the installed technology we were using do precisely what was being described.
Thankfully, I think most Big Media CEOs recognize that you can't get something for nothing, and ultimately, people will vote with their pocketbooks. Fascism, (in media or the greater society) or the suppression of differences, has proven time and again far less likeable or positive an influence on Mankind as a harmony of eccentric voices in chorus. I think there's probably money to be had here, but, like Paula says, who wants to be the Big Fat Idiot in the room looking like someone else's brand?
Last night, I thought I wanted to hear from Mr Black on this, but after spending some time on a website which opens with his picture, I think I probably know enough already.
A clarification:
By "rock bottom" I am not referring to the quality of the templates. I am referring to where the templates windup. (I had my own experience with this with HP where the identity templates were utilized by guys operating out their garage who would never hire or pay a designer).
The positive result is that when generic design is permeated, regardless of its level, it ultimately encourages individualism. That's good for designers.
When the templates are used they won't be on anyone's potential client, but on projects no one should touch in the first place. Consider the mind set of a magazine publisher or editor who would use one. Not a client to have.
I like the colliding ascender/descender headline feature in the templates... really shows off that you really know the rules, but are breaking them. Nice.
I'm sure Paula is right and it will all eventually even itself out (while making Ready-Media a packet in the process).
But in the meantime, this move helps publishing executives justify the art department layoffs that have crippled editorial designers for the past couple of years. The fact that fellow designers are contributing to this is an especially low blow.
James Kelleher's comment about these smaller publications being where we as entry-level designers started is a good one. With more and more designers coming out of colleges every year, this is bad news for our industry as a whole.
Don't hate me but I think this may not be such a bad thing. These designs are decent. In fact I'd say they're better than 90% of the magazines and newspapers out there. They are generic but of course they have to be to have broad appeal. A good designer will take them and customize them.
This is my best analogy so far: they're like a paint-by-numbers kit. They'll give you the canvas, the outlines and the right colors. The result will not be art. However, the completed painting will have all the right things in all the right places and at the right scale. This is harder than it looks. In my opinion many publications make a lot of mistakes with these basics: font choices, sizes, margins, hierarchy etc...
Furthermore, constructing templates is difficult, meticulous, time consuming work. If these are done well they'll enable fast accurate layout. Designers should have more time to art direct and come up with creative editorial solutions. It's the content and communication that is most important to readers. Bespoke design can make this better - the communication can become more nuanced and artful. We all love to see Fred Woodward's brilliance. But it's a luxury - not affordable for most publications.
This is a threat to designers who make their living doing redesigns for budget conscious publishers. It's not a threat to most art directors: someone still has to put the pages out and commission the art. And it's not a threat to the superstars.
A templated approach always sounds like a good idea from an Excel spreadsheet. If Apple ignored the nuance of design as it relates to each individual product and how important that is to engaging the consumer... well let's just say Windows would still be king.
For any titles that think this is the right direction I am confident they will see the error in this thinking in short order via another spreadsheet.
@Luke:
This is a threat to designers who make their living doing redesigns for budget conscious publishers. It's not a threat to most art directors: someone still has to put the pages out and commission the art. And it's not a threat to the superstars.
That may be true, but I think Elizabeth and many others hit the nail on the head quite well. Frankly, I think it's naïve not to understand that this threatens many people who work for/in smaller organizations (not all big brands come in big shiny towers), for people that don't understand what they do. It is the great challenge of our time, communicating what we do, to the corporate brass that don't understand, but in the immediate, there are any number of folks whose good, hard work, is threatened by this kind of kit model. On the bright side, I think Paula's probably right: this kind of thing will cycle back around when one too many Brassies are unwittingly sold into Nosara and they wind up next to each other on the stand. But the immediate concern about the impact this has on all our collective professional progress in communicating who we are and what we do to the bean counters, well, it's huge.
Yes, building templates is hard work. HARD work. But once they're done, they're done. As you point out, too many of them are built by folks who make egregious choices, but I think on this forum at least, all of us represent folks who care about making good choices. Frankly, no matter where one works, there's always time to fold that hard work in with a little planning. The logic behind those basic mistakes you so adeptly point to is precisely the logic that leads to solutions like a kit. CEO says "make it Arial at 11 point because I like the way memos look on my screen in arial and arial comes free", and so it is. CEO says buy Roger Black's Trumbull and give it to the production guys because they cost less, and let art go. Why spend money on type?
Look, I think you make a good point. There's clearly an audience here, the templates are perfectly ok looking, and plenty of good reasons for someone to buy this. But the idea that Roger Black has sold this boat down the river is going to leave many of us trying to explain to someone with a fancy C-title, calculator and an big empty desk why we make $X a year when they can just call Roger and hand our work to Production, or worse, ask IT to automate the whole damn thing. As our staffs dwindle, some of us have already had this conversation one too many times.
I had every intention of avoiding a rant, but I think it just went there. Rant over.
PS: How can we hate you?!
Working at a city/regional magazine and seeing the ever reducing budget & staff, this sends a shiver down my spine. Knowing the powers that be at my place, I'm going to try like hell to keep this under cover. What a sad day for publishing and graphic design as a whole.
From Danilo's website: "Why grapple with disruptive innovation when you can leverage on it?"
Can I say "fuck you" on this board?
Nooooooooooo everyone, it's ALL good. Let me tell you why.
As an accomplished AD, I've seen it, and worked for them all. The big publishers and wee publishers and everyone in between. The big boys have no need for this sort of thing ... the mid-sizers will be focusing on their brands (or die trying) ... it's the wee guys that need this new stirrup -up into traditional publishing.
There are many of these folks still out there who still feel that there is an 80s caché to the title 'Publisher' and think that magazines will be their vehicle to fame. Especially here on the Left Coast (Vancouver). And there are equally so many designers who really don't understand edit or how to design for it.
The good in this it that we will no longer have to futz with the battle of building something for a client who really doesn't have a clue as to what they need, nor the budget to execute it. Let them pick the plate, then use it as your starting point. Because that is all that this will be. A beginning. And thanks to RM and RB, it'll be a solid one.
And, if you think (or your client thinks) that they will no longer need a designer? It'll be apparent pretty quickly that one still needs someone who understands how to manipulate elements, art direct, and type play, even on a INDD template.
@Luke and Paula ... we're on the same page.
Can't wait to present a client with one of these gems ... then take it from there.
Anna (with 2 n's!)
"It'll be apparent pretty quickly that one still needs someone who understands how to manipulate elements, art direct, and type play, even on a INDD template."
Apparent to designers, perhaps, but decision-makers at the top? Maybe they'll come to their senses down the road, but not after they've asked the former designers to pack their bags.
And by the way, designing templates may be hard and meticulous work, but for those of us who love editorial design and learned from starting at the bottom, it's very gratifying to make those design decisions. (Structure and format are, in fact, still design decisions.)
While it's true many publications aren't designed very well, my issue is with those who seem to believe only a chosen few should pre-empt the process of improvement.
If it's any consolation -- if they work as poorly and are as buggy as his redesign of The Washington Times' website was, then designers should have nothing to worry about.
I see no problem here at all. Roger has always been a smart businessman, if he can get folks to pay money for this stuff, then good luck to him.
But there are three things his clients need to know:
1. Nothing here will survive any measure of competitive activity. For print brands to survive, they have to be individual, and capable of demonstrating unique value to the reader. For small scale customer publishing and house journals, these magazine templates may well work out. For consumer magazines, no way. Some of the newspaper templates look pretty good, for a local or free there might be real value in this route. If of course, there any newspapers left out there.
2. It takes just as much design time to successfully adapt a template than to build it from scratch. So unless you want it exactly as sold, there will be a on-cost.
3. Roger wants you to spend that on-cost with him! As the Ready Media web site proclaims: 'We're standing by for support and advice'. I bet they are...
It was only a matter of time--an opportunity presented by a shift in culture and Roger seized it in a carefully crafted business-like manner. Would we be so harsh if this were a Microsoft or Abode product? It stings since Mr. Black is one of us [and perhaps because we did not think of it first?]. It will take work from both above and below the median and force some talented art directors and designers to reconsider the publishing industry [among those that have not done so already]. I agree with those above who say this will be used by clients we would not want anyway, but surely there will be instances where non-profits or cultural institutions who appreciate design but are strapped for cash will find themselves considering this as an alternative.
This approach is will not be limited to magazines [watch out web designers and annual report people] or even just graphic design. Other design industries are facing the same issues. i.e.- architects and the advent of Building Information Modeling: http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/20100721/design-without-designers
The one thing I can take away from this is it has generated an active and opinionated discussion on design, which is a positive. Last week it was Bruce and Emily in Newsweek talking about social practices. This week Roger has presented something that should make us all think.
I'd like to thank everybody for their comments, criticisms and more.
We do not know where this venture will lead us, but from a type developer's point of view, we don't think this is going to have a big effect on the design market that has time for these comments.
Ready-Media was formed to help smaller local publishers get design that's too expensive for many of them, help them concentrate on the issue-centered art direction and content gathering, and help them make sound font choices without a lot of fiddling.
We have no intention of excluding other people's fonts or design ideas and as Ready-Media moves along, we hope to offer a wider selection of products, and links to other service providers outside of our abilities to provide.
I know, this sounds like warm and fuzzy market-speak, but we saw a huge problem that was not being addressed, we assembled as talented and inexpensive a group as we could find to solve it, and we hope this effort is not offensive to our fine customers for products and services in the custom design markets.
Thank you for your space and time to publish and read my view.
P.S. and the "and" between my name and Sam's should not be bold. I'm livid.
Cheers!
We fixed that bold "and" David. We hang our heads in shame. Thanks!
Food for thought
Criswell aptly mentioned web design as being a target for this approach.
In fact it's been approached this way on the web for quite some time.
This site your participating in is built on a blogging platform offered by Movable Type. Essentially it's a presentation layer skin and some options draped over a template.
There are a few tweaks ( *ahem* not as many as we would like ) overall however this site is basically straight out of the box.
For better or worse the business model we are debating the ethics of is the same model that enables SPD as a small non-profit group to run and maintain a website at all.
thanks Jeremy: that nails it for me
I'm a former editor---an investigative journalist who migrated into custom work and loved it---and not a designer. I've moved on to software development but never lost my love of magazine work.
While I hear the Cassandras (this has been one painful coupla years for many of my colleagues) but I'm with the optimists. ReadyMedia is a shrewd market response to cheap and cheerful...way way below the custom market, an analogue of Wordpress for websites. (Which I hear the NYTIMES hacked for its own website, true?) It's a terrific solution for marginal and niche magazines, unabashedly entry-level. And yes, ReadyMedia may yield the design equivalent of Yugo magazines. And they will die and deservedly so: no voice, no engagement, no authenticity.
But what if ReadyMedia sparks mashups and weird and wonderful wrinkles on its own constraints? (Real talent rebels. Always.) And who knows what fresh talent rebelling against the ReadyMedia cookie cutter may produce, in print or on an iPad?
Magazines will never die and the very particular intimacy of a magazine will always always inspire great design. I still remember the very first time I saw a Sunday Times 'colour supplement', way back in 1966, when my mad Auntie Barbara sent me a mono copy of the Beatles REVOLVER all the way from London and tucked an issue about the 'birth of reggae' in as an afterthought.
Loved the record but the typeface and design of that magazine (and the Clay Felker-era ESQUIREs she shared with me at the family cottage) changed my life. That ain't nostalgia: that's great design.
The reality is that small publishers are the ones that need unique building blocks the most. For these businesses, custom templates go a long way to address specific needs and conjure a unique personality. These pubs don’t have the budget for the many “invited guests†that populate the pages of bigger, more successful magazines. Imagine a talk show that couldn’t afford to book many celebs—the host better be good!
Instant pages will get you started, but shortly thereafter the staff will still have to innovate—and evolve—the way they engage their audience. And these days, if you don’t get it right quickly, it may be over for you very fast.
Besides, what we do best—making powerful images and telling stories that reflect the times we’re living in—doesn’t reside in templates.
Amen, Don. Amen.
Thanks to Robert for the fix, and sorry for becoming livid... I'm in a livid management program but sometimes I falter.
Thanks for the additional comments.
As usual it is left to the mighty Andy Cowles to be the voice of reason. Couldn't agree more with his sentiments. Maybe I was a little hasty to be administering the last rites to our dying industry, as it will no doubt be a long, drawn out and messy end. Still, cheer up we'll all be iPad designers soon. Oh joy.
The templatization of web while nifty and helpful (and necessary, really) is what I find most frustrating. The freedom to design whatever my brain decides to come up with, isn't there like it is in a printed piece. I'm stuck in the confines of the code which lies beneath. I feel there is a lack of uniqueness in website design that's inherent to the media.
Templates make more sense in web design given all the challenges the designer has to consider (monitor resolution, browser, OS, commenting, blogs etc.) But we're talking about printed magazine design where we can choose the variables: size, paper, spot colors, binding, inserts etc. And these aren't dynamic layouts. When it's done, it's done.
Admittedly, I'm no web designer. I've done it in the past to varying degrees of success. I'm learning and re-building my website with WordPress. So I'm not poo-pooing templates across the board. It may very well be a good choice for some businesses. At the end of the day, I guess it really boils down to a personal choice for me. If an employer decides they want to go the template route with a publication I'm working on, am I working at the right company? Me thinks not.
Folks: Stay tuned. We've got a Q+A with Roger Black that is going to be posted up tonight on the site. He answers a bunch of questions and addresses a number of the issues raised in this comment section. And we'll have even more discussion next week. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far, and be sure to spread the word about this post to your co-workers and social networks. This comment thread has been linked over the past couple days by Design Observer, Magculture.com, I Love Typography, Steven Heller at Print, and Romenesko, among others.
One would think that Roger Black, with his illustrious publication career, would be more respectful of what we do as designers. This is design for a crowdSPRING audience.
Wow. I'm amazed that so many designers — luminaries, even — are affronted by a set of ready-made templates. There's stock photography, stock illustration and it was inevitable that someone would roll out stock design, targeting an audience with limited requirements and/or budgets. If anything, designers threatened by a template or two need to think harder about what added value they offer the publishers and clients that pay their salaries and fees. If you're truly creating value, then Ready-Media shouldn't affect your livelihood one bit.
If this is the impetus for many more print magazine startups, then it could be a great thing. Certainly, after a fledgling magazine gets on solid ground a year or two after its launch, one of the first evolutionary steps would be to find a "real" designer and get a custom and unique look and feel.
People can do whatever they want of course, it's just kind of nasty for a designer to be the driving force of this business. Does he respect himself at all?
And Joe - I'm not a fan of using stock images either.
RB is going were the money is for years. I doubt he designed anything himself for a long time. Magazine templates are not a new concept, it's disappointing he jumped on the money train with his name behind it. On the other hand it gives low-budget publishers a nice tool and I say good riddance to clients who only want to pay peanuts for a custom designed publication.
At Sports Illustrated’s custom pub. department, recycling can happen in the face of tight deadlines and small staff. But the fun is in the challenge of always making each project look new, innovative or just plain handsome. Templates are helpful to a point. I wonder if there is fine print in the user agreement forbidding tweaking Roger’s readymades. Reminds me of how Frank Lloyd Wright insisted people throw out their furniture and use his in the homes he built for them.
Design finally has its own Bondian villain! At least there's some relief in that the layouts aren't crowd-sourced and that there's a finite number of them. Or maybe that's Phase II.
Remember when magazines had photo staffs? This is where photographers were 13 years ago. If this venture is successful, others will follow (that are of course cheaper and more sophisticated than their predecessors) and soon enough there'll be an iStockDesign where you can get templates for $1/download. I mean, anyone with a digital camera can take a picture of a jar of pennies, but selecting a font to go with it...that could never be freelanced. Beware of the Philosophy of Good Enough, it travels from the bottom up--and it moves quick!
WOW. what fertile ground for discussion. Thanks SPD for hosting this conversation, look forward to more.
@STEVE R... you've hit on THE key point here. If we as AD's are worried about this, then we all need to swear off stock photography, stock illustration, and maybe a lot of those derivative fonts. The line of originality is blurring by the day. Interesting.
None of these developments (or our concerns) should seriously impact on our day to day work if we're any good at what we do.
... And the fact you're on here means you're exceptionally talented people with no reason to be threatened by a desktop publishing experiment.
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What a sad sell-out of a day!
Where was all this moral outrage when all the designers rushed to use dollar stock instead of assigning the images you really wanted to use? When they came for the ......... and when they came for me there was no one to protest. You proved the stock model for them. You help devastate another sector of the industry without looking twice. Karma is a bitch.
Someone mentioned that "if you are an exceptionally talented person you have nothing to fear"...
Great. How about the other 99% who are just really good?
"....Despite the fact that for years we could see a Roger Black design-factory coming like balls on a tall dog, we all have our panties in a twist seeing his dark vision actualized...." Um, yeah, this comment single-handedly makes Andrea Dunham the sexiest and most succinct woman in America. Roger, with all that money you're making would you please, please, please buy her a first class ticket to Charleston?
And the fact you're on here means you're exceptionally talented people with no reason to be threatened by a desktop publishing experiment.
I bet that you say that to all the art directors.
As a photographer, the delicious irony of this has not been lost on me.
That is all.
I'm curious ... to put some of this in perspective ... how much does it cost for a 48, 60, or 72-page magazine to buy the templates needed to publish? I assume that some very small publications will go with the macaroni and cheese, as is, and others will want Ready-Media to apply special sauce to the logo and possibly other places. How much do the extras cost?
Are costs scaled by client size, market size or circulation? Or, are the costs applied by number of page units or is the same package price applied for everyone regardless of book size or market? The costs will help to put in perspective just how competitive this stock design solution may be, and to what market it will appeal to.
I assume the templates are well made. The magazines posted on their web site are nicely designed, although they do look like siblings, if not first cousins. They are straight forward, simply attired and seem well mannered. It may be that small, specialized publishers who are not competing for ads or readers, will be well served if the cost is low. But, when a small or medium sized publication competes on a professional level, a unique structure designed to communicate their identity, will help to build a following from both their readers and advertisers.
This may be a good product for a particular segment of the magazine industry. There seems be a lot of concern about the overall effect this product/service will have on our craft as designers and art directors. I don't think this will cause lowered expectations from smart publishers, but photography and illustration has certainly suffered from the proliferation of stock images. Time will tell. This does seem to be a smart business model for Ready-Media. Once again, time will tell.
WOW! Obviously RB's plan has tweaked a collective nerve. I suppose it's to be expected. But while some posts are hilarious, (Andrea, I laughed until my own set hurt), some seem very uhhhhh... anxious. What's gonna happen? Here's one opinion.
To my mind, the probable outcome lies somewhere within the combined Mitch, Paula, and Patrick posts. There may be a mild swing toward the economies that lower-end publishers generally seek, but the pendulum will soon swing back to hands-on creative solutions and high-end folks won't touch these templates. Brand and identity do matter. Good design is good business. Where that doesn't happen, who wants to work there anyway?
Remember the egregious advent of "Desktop Publishing"? That was supposed to turn every editor/publisher into a wanna-be AD. It didn't happen then, and some could argue that it actually turned us all into better visual artists and typographers to meet the challenge. We came out on top.
Change in our business is inevitable (and for me extremely welcome). Whatever does occur, one thing is certain. The art department is the central hub of all publishing and that will never change. No template will take the place of a talented AD's pithy headline rewrite, or last minute redesign of a feature that's horribly over/under word count, or make a visual silk purse out of some of the sow's ear stock images we're sometimes obliged to use. Or for that matter, create something that is visually moving, unexpected, gorgeous, and worthy of praise.
And as far as the iPad goes, it will only bring us more opportunities. I'm sure you know that designing and producing a digital edition requires rare judgment, design chops, and tech ability. No template will replace that. What we know about the nuances of communicating ideas cannot be bested by any turn-key solution, or by those who count their skill set as beginning and ending with Microsoft Word and reading Adweek.
Do not sweat this. The future is still ours.
SPD could take a leadership role and promote its members many talents -- even just a simple portfolio gallery with contact information (and transparent freelance rates).
There are many considerably talented designers here who would be more than happy to help small publications with their design at affordable rates, even if they don't have a famous name or a well-oiled sales pitch.
First, the publishers who elect to bring in Roger's templates would have never hired a brilliant breathing designer anyway. This move will raise the standard of the design landscape in schlockland, albeit generically, but it also interestingly forces the bar to be raised for those above the fray. We can endlessly discuss the merits or the travesty of it all ... I am only surprised it took this long ... clever of Roger to seize the moment. Photographers had their awakening and their worth and esteem yanked when a huge percentage of publications started to pick up images from the digital stock houses. Did this hurt the careers of photographers who would have /could have /been assigned to shoot? It depends who you ask. Great photographers will continue to photograph for hire and great designers will continue to be called in to design. As the world turns.
1. If someone buys a template are the font(s) included? If so, is it the complete family?
2. If someone buys a template (and fonts) do they have permission to use the fonts for other jobs?
To answer Carol and so many others who maintain that the cream will rise to the top. That's not the way it played out in the photography space and many of those at the top have filed bankruptcy and fled the market. When the foundation of any industry crumbles the shining towers eventually wobble as well.
Too many to catalog but suffice it to say that the suffering in the photo biz has been distributed equally along the Bell Curve. So graphic design is somehow different? Maybe only 90 % will be affected.
The magazine design industry is at a crossroads: devalued services (courtesy of celebrity layout templates), soaring paper prices, distribution woes, and advertisers' loss of faith in the magazine industry. How can a magazine (below the realm of Wired, Esquire and GQ) compete with the perfectly opaque white screen of a tablet? The paper quality on many magazines today (including the one I work on) are deplorable. Folios are so thin on many publications that the reader no longer has the sensation that their purchase has any importance. Compare that to the solidness of an iPad. The R-M templates are a bit too late to the Print party and are an act of desperation. Their impact to our industry pales to the three other issues stated above. There will be no solutions to these crippling issues without interaction between members of SPD, ASME, and MPA. My advice: learn as many multimedia skills as possible and be prepared to go all-digital within 5 years. Long live Print.
I think it's really great how Roger has brought us all together for a fascinating conversation. All we need now are some cocktails to go with it and we'd hare a right proper SPD event! There is a lot of interesting speculation and accusation and some surprising outrage as well. I think it's essential to remember that, as Carol pointed out, the people that would go for this kind of template would not have paid a decent rate for an AD anyway. As well, Roberto's comment about the desktop publishing point is right on. I remember those days well, all of a sudden a lot of work dried up because everyone was going to Kinko's (or equivalent) instead of using a "designer" because now they could do it themselves for free. Nonetheless, there were plenty of people who still valued interesting/quality work, so there was still work to be done. Most of that work was bottom end stuff to begin with, and had it not been for desktop publishing, I probably wouldn't have the career I have, well what's left of it anyway... Design, photography, film, broadcast etc have all had their beatdowns and most have adapted but at the end of the day most of us don't get paid anywhere close to what we used to or are required to do the work of many people because the budgets just don't exist anymore. If you had a great idea for a magazine, that could generate enough regional advertising to keep it going, but didn't have a start-up slush fund, A Ready Media template and MagCloud might be the way to go.
America's best-selling passenger car is the Toyota Camry, which Edmund's says "has all the character of a washing machine from behind the wheel." The top retailer in the U.S. is Wal-Mart. McDonald's is the most successful food joint in the country.
I guess the bean counters figure that, if Americans flock to buy cars with cookie-cutter designs, clothes and general merchandise devoid of style or quality, and tasteless, nutrition-free food, then why would they care about the design quality of their periodicals, which are typically consumed and discarded as quickly as a Big Mac through one’s digestive tract?
The fact is, as designers, we are making deliberate, educated decisions regarding presentation that focus primarily on telling stories visually (not just picking a pretty font or dropping the right-sized image into the appropriate container). The craft of visual storytelling should be to provide our readers with a high-performance vehicle for accessing information, an elegant and ingenious mechanism for organizing this information, and a savory experience while digesting the news of the day.
We aren't selling french fries and rubber duckies here folks. We are on the front line of storytelling — a publication’s design is the first thing that engages the reader with sensory information, and it impresses upon them the hierarchy, weight, and general newsworthiness of information. Design is pivotal to our mission of providing a sacred service to the public, which is the cornerstone of the democratic process. We strive for excellence in the presentation of every story and page — though we may not always meet that lofty benchmark, especially in the era of shrinking budgets, fewer resources, and reductions in staffing. But our readers at least deserve our commitment to “aim for the superb†in writing, editing, photography, and design, especially considering the importance of the service we, as journalists, are providing.
If someday young boys drool over photos of a Toyota Camry in the pages of Car and Driver (as I did in the early 80s over the Lamborghini Countach LP500S), Wal-Mart exclusively provides the wardrobes for those on the Red Carpet on Oscar night, and Georges Perrier serves his Hanger Steak in Big Mac Secret Sauce instead of his signature Sauce Bordelaise, I'll be forced to reconsider the merits of the "just add water" concept.
I maintain that there can be no template for excellence. A template's purpose is to make things consistent. By definition, to be excellent, one must stand out. So, I choose not to "just add water" to this idea, but instead, would prefer to water it with a fluid of a different variety.
“Excellence in any department can be attained only by the labor of a lifetime; it is not to be purchased at a lesser price.†—Samuel Johnson
Just go to "magazines" drop down the menu and see, who the sight is actually for. I think it's the good news. Now my 12 people business can have a tiny little "Bugle" or a "Sentinel" of its own to put out in the lobby without having to spend a truckload of cash to get the kerning right... I would just relax, you guys. Good design is not going away any time soon and good designers are safe.
Writer/editor/typographer and all-around smart guy John D. Barry has added some thoughts on the Ready-Media project on his blog. It's good reading: http://johndberry.com/blog/. Barry is the former editor and publisher of U&lc and is the current president of ATypI. He knows a lot about templates and type.
Wow. Thinking Roger just threw a thousand graphic designers under the bus...
A Black-Eye
Black and company are suggesting to their target audience that this "complicated" thing called design will be done by their A-list Ready Media designers so that they can concentrate on what is really important--"the Content". Sorry, design is content. Content is design. They are suggesting a clothesline from which to hang content.
In the beginning there is the idea, then the creation or fulfillment of the idea. There is a reason that the idea is placed at the beginning. Then everything else follows suite. Every decision reinforces the creation. It’s as old and as simple as the old saw "form follows function". Black suggests that a list of ready-mades that worked for another creation might be shoehorned onto the users unique creation.
Black and his boys might raise the level of newsletter and corporate communications design being cranked out in Microsoft Word templates from in-house PR departments, mail room personal, secretaries, and that guy down the hall who took that art correspondence course, but in the long run this is nothing more than a money making venture from a bunch of editorial designers who are not getting the big jobs anymore.
I don't knock these guys for trying to make a living, but just be honest about what is being sold and why.
Corporate heads may soon be thinking of how they can dispense with writers and editors. After all we have all heard the expression, "This thing practically writes itself."
Interesting that I should read this the same day that I came upon “Add Water and Talentâ€, print mags/Steven Heller article on the “Learn Graphic Design Fastâ€, a 3-month program at Shillington College in Austrailia.
Design outrage.
The message is out. We should be paying attention but how can we? Everything we know is being challenged. Graphic designers devalued. We need to seek out our value and hope it allows us to do what we love and continue to love what we do.
I do believe that the visual world will ultimately continue to improve as it always has. So I need to also believe that there is an appropriate place for these quick solutions. They are in answer to the business sentiment that we cannot deny is out there everyday.
There are precedents to this throughout our industry.
You can build a website from templates using Wordpress (or less sophisticated tools). Our invoices are templated. Microsoft Word offers templates for every document imaginable. We can buy well-cut and considered type for $30 a face. I'm old enough to remember the outrage when cheap downloadable type was available—it was going to be the end of design as we knew it—and in a way, it was. It made design better... I got to spend more time thinking ans less time specing type and waiting for galleys. In fact, a pretty talented designer who posted a comment just a few statements above developed a set of templates for HP that served as both an improvement of the template form and a useful aid in getting across the context of design at the street-level. No harm, no foul...
Templates are tools in response to a demand. Our responsibility to our profession is to help increase the level of discernment on the street-level. We are design thinkers (as opposed to text box shufflers or style sheet applicators). This is a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate the value of what we do by contrast with the work done without the insights we have as design thinkers.
A favorite statement of mine from Virilio's Pure War [ Semiotext(e) ] : Every technology produces, provokes, programs a specific accident. The invention of the airplane is the invention of the plane crash.
I don't think this is as cynical as it appears initially. It highlights a part of invention that is simply inevitable. A user-friendly open source community is a great invention. Creative folks craved it and love it. Unfortunately, open source, by definition, isn't just for creatives. It's for everyone.
Sure I can see that more access to better "organized" publishing content in the world using whatever tools necessary to create forward movements that are overall better organized with a lower time-to-market rate. That's a tremendous benefit. However, what gets me excited is when design thinkers invest less energy in designing vehicles that only marginally benefit from their thought leadership, but focus more intensely on the game shifting publications that call for cowboys and pioneers. That's what keeps us from becoming commodities. Doing work for clients who only expect (and hence will only pay for) mediocrity brings all of us down. Forward them the link to the templates and polish the relationships with those that know the difference. And get in front of business people in the forums where they convene and respectfully share the difference between thought and template.
Hi Paula:
I referenced you in a post at the end of this chain. I hope I was fair. Please let me know if I wasn't.
Best regards.
Well said, Mitch. We all know that good templates can save designers who know how to use them a lot of time, but whenever a new technical innovation comes out—the Mac itself, QPS, K4—publishing companies want to know if investing in it will allow them to cut budgets and jobs. My concern is that companies will try to use these pre-fab pubs as a way to hire less-experienced professionals and pay them less, in an attempt to make more money, and may only realize how misguided this strategy is once the quality suffers.
The truth is that technology used efficiently can take away a lot of tedious task work, giving designers more time to develop a creative solution. It can also save money and resources, sometimes. But, most importantly, no amount of technology is a substitute for an experienced designer.
Many interesting points - and assumptions, presented here in response to Black's venture. While templates, "FiftyDollarLogos.com"-style websites and the like are on the rise, it's true that these resources will generally be used to fulfill only a certain portion of the market. Worth noting that this market share is all these resources need to justify their existence in a capitalist economy. As someone mentioned above, demand gives rise to supply. So, yes, these publication templates will yield cookie-cutter airline magazine results - but if there's a market for that, then it's fair game (hey, we need something to read on the plane, right?)
But don't assume, Jeremy LaCroix, that "you my friend don't want those jobs." While the graphic design community ogles the year-end annuals from Print magazine (design judged by designers, not by actual market results), the reality for many designers is that such work is their bread and butter, allowing them to take on pro-bono or lower paying but more creatively interesting work. You're are right, Jeremy, that trade newsletters and such aren't really that much fun and won't make us famous designers (if that's your thing), but it's still legit work for some of designers.
This "low-end" market is one that Paula Scher and Pentagram probably won't have to worry about much as their clientele probably (hopefully) understands what they're buying and why (i.e. custom design work from a noted design studio).
Graphic designers are only just realizing what the music recording industry has already learned: technology changes the game whether we (designers/craftspeople/technicians) like the results or not. Many of the major analog recording studios have withered and disappeared as digital recording technology became increasingly capable. Recording engineers will complain about the loss of fidelity in compressed, downloaded audio heard via ear bud-style headphones, but the general public wants convenience, not quality. Sell that analog gear and learn Pro Tools or die. There's always some room for a couple of Steve Albini analog-purist types, but the rest had to change and hit the ground running.
Yes, this will only make custom work stand out all the more, but don't assume, Paula, that "This always shakes out, no matter where it comes from. Trust me. I've watched this cycle for forty years." Maybe in your corner, hopefully for the rest of your lifetime. But as the global economy changes, so too does the game. Coding capabilities will only grow - far beyond anything we can currently imagine. Remember, 40 years ago, there were a lot more magazines in print than today; many have gone belly up. 40 years ago we didn't have social media, crowd sourcing, and I-pads. Jump ahead beyond the scope of this conversation and consider for a moment where nanotechnology might be in a couple of 40 year cycles...(don't worry, Paula, we'll both be dead by then...or maybe not!).
(I imagine the letterpress printer complained bitterly when the offset press muscled in.)
More than ever, we have to educate our current and potential clients about what their B2B purchases will get them (cookie cutter vs. custom). And we may have to work harder and learn new skills to better serve them (and win/keep their business). If you're really all that, then go prove it.
Very interesting responses everyone! I believe the “standardization†of everything creative including innovative thinking at the university level (now run by big business), is an attack on the creative, independent spirit of humanity.
It reminds me of the years I used to give tins of homemade cookies to everyone for Christmas. Did they remember the other manufactured presents I gave them? NO! It was always about the homemade cookies made with love they remembered. That’s the analogy I am making with the templates…someone will always want to buy the boxed cookies because they won’t want to take the time to make them. Like someone said on is topic thread, it will be less hassle for a designer to use templates for difficult clients who don’t want to pay but ultimately, they may not be as memorable. On the upside, we don’t have to struggle with technical issues. Difficult clients who don’t want to pay or appreciate what we do are bad enough.
Technology is a double-edged sword. I am thrilled that I don’t have to do some of the manual stuff I had to do in school to make a presentation. Pantone paper anyone? On the other hand, I am saddened by what is happening. It almost seems as if our “design thinking†is not appreciated, encouraged or shared in the same way it used to be.
When I was at Ontario College of Art in the early 80’s, the Communication and Design floor was a hustling, bustling place where our desks were in an open concept foyer. In late October, brilliant works of student art were showcased. It was a chance to admire the individual design thinkers, illustrators, photographers and experimental artists at the college.
In early November 2008, I went to visit OCA(D), now a “university.†As I walked up the steps to the C&D Department, I was excited to see the students’ work showcased along the walls just like in the 80’s. When I got there, nothing was up on the walls. The open foyer that once was home to many desks with artists in lively conversation sharing ideas and stories was a pretty bleak place and not a sole was around.
I remembered when Dr. Fleck was pushing for OCA to become a university. There was a huge uproar from experimental artists, designers, illustrators, photographers and some teachers. They even went so far as to make buttons saying “Fleck Off†which was hilarious at the time but what good did it do? They got what they wanted. Some teachers up and quit in protest through the years when they found out that practical classes were going to be replaced by more “theory†classes.
I have a university degree too and trust me, it took me 4 years of OCA to unwind and find my design thinking voice. Years of freelancing actually helped too.
Technology has effects beyond design. It has leveled hierarchies and has scrubbed off our identities to some degree. It’s up to us to navigate through the shifting language. This conversation sure helps me not feel alone about what I think is happening in the graphic design profession. Some great designers have left the industry and I can’t say that I blame them.
I read in an Applied Arts article about an illustration teacher who was concerned that his students were having a difficult time expressing themselves emotionally in their art. I wonder if technology and its effects have something to do with that.
Correction...I meant “soul†not “sole...:-)
Thanks Ready-Media, you just set us all back about 10 years. How many of us have fought hard throughout our careers to have beautiful design work shine in mainstream commercial magazines? Or try to explain to prospective clients during a tough pitch why the typography should be a certain way, finessed just so to give a magazine that perfect typographic personality that will make it stand out from all the others? Not anymore. This cookie-cutter approach is absolute anti-design and will kill any exciting magazine design innovation left out there (which is already fast becoming extinct). What a joke, and absolutely disappointing, especially coming from a "publication design maestro".